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in politics that i am not objective about, and she is one of them. another one is chuck hagel but that's another story. >> stephanie: it was hilarious, like most people this week she was caught in traffic, and he was literally in the middle of a stem winder he would be able to afford education -- and it's like elizabeth warren is here. >> yeah, he was very sharp. and some day i hope to ask him. how do you integrate his previous job with this one? he was very, very funny. >> stephanie: yeah, he has unleashed the comedy cracken again. >> yeah, because it has to be enormously tempting. to essentially squelch the heckelers. >> stephanie: oh my god, jim he did a dead on bernie sanders impersonation. and he made an amazing point about the cost of college. how much does it cost in this country. >> yeah, and in finland. >> stephanie: and he said in fin lan they pay you to go to college. >> yeah. >> stephanie: but he made a really good point of the percentage that pell grants paid -- >> it was 60% of your education, and now it pays 32. >> stephanie: yeah, he was talking about
chuck hagel from becoming our next secretary of defense. a new conservative group with anonymous donors called americans for a strong defense is running ads urging five democrats to vote against confirming hagel. another is called use your mandate. it is also new. it also has anonymous donors. it claims to be a liberal gay rights groups but buys its ad time through a republican firm. it has no web site and no physical address. it is, however using ads and mailers to call hagel anti-gay, anti-woman and anti-israel. this is part of a larger story in "the new york times" reporting at least five other groups are engaged in trying to block the president's choice. and the increase emergence of anonymous dollars and shady front groups is likely a result of citizens united. that 2010 decision that opened the floodgates to allow interested parties to inject endless outside money into our political campaign. >> i hate citizens united. >> me, too. npr reporting for the fives time today, google is posting its policies on what information it turns over to the government as part of an effort to win t
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